New Snapshot as of 9/15/2020 to include users from 9/1/2020 until the announcement was made

The transactions are not faked. Insiders who learned of the distribution between Sept 1 to 15 could have created a bunch of new wallets and done a single transaction to Uniswap from each. To us, it will look like a bunch of new users, when in reality it could be a small number of people trying to game the system.

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That’s the first argument in the whole thread from the “no aidrops for people from 9/1 to 9/15 fraction” that’s understandable for me.
But there were no reasons for people to create wallets because the insiderinfo would have been: snapshot at 9/1. Why creating wallets?

Can you imagine that 400 UNI is a lot…I mean, really a lot of money for some people? Or is it completely out of range of your thinking?

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I can absolutely imagine. 400 UNI is also a lot to me.
But I can also understand the other side. A lot of money was invested to pump the price to where it is now. I think not many people would be happy if a new wave of free UNI will generate sell pressure. But I don’t know the magnitude. Would it be 100 more Airdrops? 10000 more Airdrops?

In the end I won’t be salty if either happens. I already have some free UNI and another round of Airdrop would grant me another 400 UNI since I switched from Trust Wallet to Metamask. I would not like that my bought UNI lose value, but this would perhaps be another chance to grab more UNI at lower prices.

Edit: what I would definitely support is that people who used Uniswap through sub contracts will get tokens.

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Hopefully things work out for you brother

If the decision about additional airdrop to the people who supported uniswap and used it between 1st and 15th september would be made by a management now - there would be really small chance that someone from the insiders would use bots or just create dummy accounts just for the free tokens purpose.

So I think it would be very helpful and reward also new users or those users who were late for token airdrop. I support the idea! But I rather think about those people joining/using uniswap between 1st and 15th than announcing another aidrop in the next 3 months.

So I hope the prayers will be answered.

Cheers!

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While I dont agree with this proposal, let me still entertain you guys. I think discussing without any factual information will not lead the conversation anywhere. To move forward, someone with technical knowhow need to provide us with the information:

  • how many addresses interact with uniswap from 09/01 to 09/15?
  • how much will be the total airdrop for these addresses plus taking into account also additional airdrop to existing liquidity provider for this period?
  • how many new addresses interact with uniswap only ONCE during this period?
  • how many addresses showed past activities before 09/01 e.g. interacting with other protocols etc?

A decision based on numbers would be more convincing than “its fair”. Remember that the original intention is to avoid insiders taking advantage of the knowledge of the snapshot date 09/01.

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totally agree with universe, ideas and arguments should be grounded in actual data

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Is this proposal approved?

I think it is reasonable to consider a new shapshot closer to the airdrop announcement. I do not see any difference from people that used Uniswap let’s say the 15th of August from people that used it the 2nd of September.

I understand that, to avoid information leaking and insiders taking advantage of it, the snapshot has token on the 1st.

But given that probably nobody took advantage of it, we should riconsiderar the decision.

Numbers might confirm it, but I can’t image that a huge amount of new users started to use the platform between the 1st and the 15th.

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Yeah, as one of those users that missed the snapshot by a few hours.

I would understand if the snapdate remains unchanged. However, I would offcourse prefer if they change it to airdrop date:)

My main reason would be that also these people also used the exchange because they prefer it over others, and were not looking for free money / airdrops etc.

People in between current snapshot and announcement could feel a bit bitter / sad that they missed it, so why not just include these?

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The distribution was meant to reward all the users who had used Uniswap before it was announced, this automatically makes the community more loyal to the system to a degree. Rewarding bandwagon users who made a deposit just to get tokens would dilute the value of not only the token, but the integrity of rewarding longer users.

I know I’m not the only one who’s had lots of ETH and other tokens tied up in Uniswap LPs, not because we ever expected governance but because we wanted to contribute to a better monetary system.

This, at the end of the day this should be about the betterment of DeFi as not just a “fairer” financial system, just a better one. One of the fundamental problems with traditional systems is the instability that arises when a very specific group gets added to the community. In this case, long term users and early adopters vs. short term traders and users who didn’t risk their portfolios in a new technology.

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We are not responsible for anyone’s capacity to feel bitter/sad over missing an airdrop. We are responsible for maintaining a system composed of experienced users, who have used the system through multiple iterations, and supplied (in a lot of cases) more than the snapshot value in LP value.

If you missed the airdrop, and want to participate in governance, and believe in Uniswap long term: buy UNI on an exchange.

No, you didn’t get it for free, but if you believe in the system enough to deserve free tokens, you should believe in it enough to invest.

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My above point about buying UNI I think encapsulates the “No” vote concisely. Airdrop accounts spent/risked their assets over a period of time because they believed in the mission, and got rewarded. Now that governance is live, buying it on an exchange is your way of paying into the system like older users, albeit a different way.

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Why did you reply to claims I never made? lol stick on topic. You’re not getting your UNI drop.

This is what you said.
PS: I will buy uni if I want it.

of course. If they announced it beforehand. Nothing wrong with what I said.

I still do not see any difference from a middle of August user and another one that started the first days of September…

I really do not understand people against it, as we are probably speaking about a small amount of tokens

It is a selfish behaviour and it’s probably better that those tokens go to platform users rather that speculators on binance

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I use the swap app on the 2nd of september and feel missed by the airdrop, i think this isnt fair…

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It is done already? I want extra uni for every failed tx that costed me many eth in mining fees? where can i get those?