[RFC] - Hedge against Impermanent Loss

Proposal Discussion
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Hedge against Impermanent Loss

This post seeks to find out whether the Uniswap community would be interested in having a Hedge against Impermanent Loss available for its liquidity providers.

Summary

Liquidity providers in AMMs are facing the risk of Impermanent Loss. The losses caused by this risk can be substantial and can potentially deter users from providing liquidity. Having a substantial amount of liquidity not only in major token pools but also in the mid and small sized tokens is necessary for the future of DeFi that lies in composability and swapping is the main building block today and tomorrow.

Providing liquidity providers with an option to hedge fully or partially against Impermanent Loss would likely increase the volume of assets in Uniswap’s liquidity pools. This would stabilize liquidity availability as users would feel more secure about their investments and be less inclined to withdraw their capital. Additionally, new tokens are more likely to be listed on Uniswap, as the availability of this feature could be a key factor for the communities of newly listed tokens.

How it works

The design is straightforward. At its core is a liquidity pool that matches underwriters and buyers. On one side, buyers purchase the Hedge against Impermanent Loss, with the liquidity pool acting as the counterparty. On the other side, underwriters take on the Impermanent Loss risk. The liquidity pool ensures that buyers and sellers are matched over time…

This hedge fully covers the Impermanent Loss, with a small excess payout due to the discrete nature of the hedge. For example, if the Impermanent Loss from a 10% price shift results in a $20 loss, the hedge would compensate $20, plus a small additional amount. Buyers pay a premium to acquire this coverage.

The Hedge against Impermanent Loss is priced using a European options model. This approach offers two benefits:

  • Familiarity: European options are well-understood financial instruments, simplifying onboarding for underwriters and facilitating third-party distribution by arbitrageurs.
  • Flexibility: Options act as market-priced conditional statements, and their P&L profiles can be easily combined to create more complex structures that align with Impermanent Loss behavior.

In the background, the hedge is constructed as a portfolio of options with strike prices spread out to match available market conditions, resulting in a payout curve that has linear segments.

Team

We are Carmine Finance. Team of developers on a mission to handle risks in DeFi. My name is Marek Hauzr and I founded Carmine little over two and a half years ago.

The Carmine team has a strong track record in DeFi, Web3 development, and traditional finance, making us well-equipped to deliver on this project.

  • Carmine Options AMM: Successfully built and operated an options AMM on StarkNet, enabling long/short options trading and staking. The team is developing advanced features like hedging impermanent loss and leveraging (Twitter: @CarmineOptions, Website: link).
  • DeRisk: Our DeFi risk management platform aggregates data from AMMs and lending protocols, monitoring real-time metrics like health ratios and capital utilization. Currently running on StarkNet and Solana, DeRisk is monitoring over $1.7 billion USD in assets (Website: link, GitHub: link).
  • Trading & Finance: Extensive backgrounds in high-frequency trading, market-making, and risk management from traditional finance and DeFi.
  • Konoha Governance: Contributed to the StarkNet ecosystem by developing open-source governance smart contracts (GitHub: link).
  • AI & Machine Learning: Developed AI-driven solutions for predictive analytics and risk management in financial markets.
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Love this concept.
I’m assuming this will require V4 functionality?

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Thank you for the response.

It would work with any “2-token” pool. The limit is that every separate design, i.e. UNIv2, v3, v4 or potentially anything else, would have to have separately implemented Impermanent Loss curve.

In UNIv4 it may be possible for the hedge to be part of the pool through hooks.

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Hello Marek,

Could you clarify what is being proposed here? Specifically, if there’s a vote on this, what question will the DAO be voting on?

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Hi kfx,

No vote here. Essentially I’m asking for feedback on the usefulness of a hedge against Impermanent Loss.

If it is possitive I will proceed with a temperature check

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This seems interesting. Would love to see it coming to life

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@Marek what will be the options on the temperature check?

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As Hayden himself mentioned, there’s no one solution to impermanant loss and I do kind of think about how Uniswap itself tries to hedge against it for users who can utilize such features

https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/1374795486398459908?t=vyLQ5UbhZB7JW-ZGbojBmQ&s=19

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Hi @blockchainedu ,
thanks for this question.

The temperature check would ask whether Uniswap would be willing to help with financing the build, maintanance and improvements in exchange for exclusivity for the next 2 years.

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Agree, there are many different ways to look at the financial risks associated with LPing.

I would add one perspective: “I want to provide liquidity, collect fees, but in $ value I want to be stable. I don’t need the upside and risk of ETH, BTC, etc. and I’m willing to pay some amount for it.”.

I’ve heard this one quite often.

The interesting thing is that with the design we have in mind, the IL, the above, inventory risk,… would be quite easy to do, once we have the first one. Essentially we would “just” have to define the function of the risk/loss.