# The Quest for Cheaper Gas! **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 20, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793 "2020-11-20T17:25:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheMantis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/themantis/32/2011_2.png) [@TheMantis](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/TheMantis)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/1 "2020-11-20T17:25:35Z")
What can we do to lighten the gas overload? Serious Question Guys, Attempting to be Proactive, Not here to Complain… Gas is the main reason why some people dont return to Uniswap… ![0 0 0](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/uniswap1/original/2X/7/7a2c29e7456f24ea091af707442c6771623dfd42.jpeg) There must be a solution! (Lets work it out!!) 🙂 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ezzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ezzy](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/Ezzy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/2 "2020-11-21T14:40:05Z")
I think the overload in gas fees is basically from the ethereum network…correct me if I’m wrong, though Uniswap can still make some adjustments. But I know of some Dapps whose gas fees are relatively higher… you might want to checkout Dy/Dx, LON, etc. ---
**Author:** ![refri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@refri](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/refri)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/3 "2020-11-21T17:09:38Z")
Yes, gas is an issue, smaler trades are not worthwhile during network congestion. But as long as uniswap is on mainnet I don’t see much room for improvement. Honeyswap (an uniswap clone) is on xDAI chain and trading there is very cheap but they didn’t catch much volume. Also you need to bridge your token from mainet to xDAI and back whereby additional fees accure. ![honeyswap2020_11_21](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/uniswap1/original/2X/4/468bd9e9936f9f49af85dc02419b9ac1f7371781.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rezwile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@rezwile](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/rezwile)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/4 "2020-11-21T23:22:59Z")
In another post i asked, if batching of votes is possible. Batching itself is a solution, but must be implemented. Small transactions and small votes do not make sense atm. ---
**Author:** ![allo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/allo/32/1861_2.png) [@allo](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/allo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/5 "2020-11-21T23:39:46Z")
Using WETH instead of ETH for trades saves you approx 15%-30% on every trade AFAICT. Few people know the trick, maybe Uniswap could make this tip more public before the next gas congestion era (probably very soon). Of course, the caveat is that you always need ETH for gas, as WETH can’t used used to pay for txes. I’m not a dev, but I’ve been told Uniswap has massive gas optimisation already. Might explain why it always seemed cheaper (to me) than all the competition (incl. non-aggregator DEXes like Balancer) ---
**Author:** ![refri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@refri](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/refri)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/6 "2020-11-22T01:59:46Z")
not sure what you mean by batching votes? It would make sense if there are many different things to vote on, like the weekly polling votes at Maker, but here we haven’t so many votes you can batch. ---
**Author:** ![TheMantis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/themantis/32/2011_2.png) [@TheMantis](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/TheMantis)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/7 "2020-11-22T10:05:21Z")
> [@allo](#): > > Using WETH instead of ETH for trades saves you approx 15%-30% on every trade Great to know, thanks dude! ---
**Author:** ![rezwile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@rezwile](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/rezwile)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/8 "2020-11-22T13:25:52Z")
Everyone signs his transaction, but the contract e.g. for a deposit into a uniswap pool is only executed once a treshold is reached. Batching could be executed on two rules: Either 12 pool deposits come first or 8 hours passed since the oldest deposit request. If one rule is triggered, all signed deposit requests are packed together in one big contract execution. Everybody involved needs to pay, but much less. Same goes for voting on governance. Dont execute immediate, wait for votes of small uni amounts to pack together. ---
**Author:** ![refri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@refri](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/refri)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/9 "2020-11-22T13:59:48Z")
ok, yes now I see what you meant. Not sure however if the bundling of deposits might save much cause every contract has to be still executed for every user. But maybe somebody with more inside in the contracts can aproximate this. If it seems to save substatial amount of fees and programming is feasable I would appreciate this. ---
**Author:** ![TheMantis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/themantis/32/2011_2.png) [@TheMantis](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/TheMantis)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/10 "2020-11-23T09:58:55Z")
> [@allo](#): > > Using WETH instead of ETH for trades saves you approx 15%-30% on every trade AFAICT. > Few people know the trick, maybe Uniswap could make this tip more public before the next gas congestion era (probably very soon). I attempted this , and it seems to have charged me extra lol ?? Am i doing it wrong lol Much Appreciated RESPECT ---
**Author:** ![allo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/allo/32/1861_2.png) [@allo](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/allo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/11 "2020-11-23T18:49:37Z")
No need to attempt it. Just use the WETH you already have and simulate prices vs a ETH swap, then compare gas costs… Last time I tested the discount was between 10% and 30%… Maybe it’s not always the case ? Would love to see input from the Uniswap team… ---
**Author:** ![dxiri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/dxiri/32/1445_2.png) [@dxiri](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/dxiri)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/12 "2020-11-27T22:45:37Z")
What about layer 2 solutions such as rollups or look into implementing Gastoken? > **GasToken** > > Basically, it’s a technology allowing you to tokenize gas. It is a more liquid form of gas because it can be bought and stored at times when gas is cheap and released (spent/burnt) when gas is expensive > > GasToken takes advantage of the “storage refund” on the Ethereum network. Smart contracts are designed to store data forever. Ethereum pays for freeing up the data saved previously while storing GasTokens. This refund is enough to cover up to a half of the transaction cost. Therefore, while others execute their transactions by paying the full market gas price, those who previously banked GasTokens, burn these tokens back to the smart contract and get a refund that covers up to 50% of their transaction fees. ---
**Author:** ![allo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/allo/32/1861_2.png) [@allo](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/allo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/13 "2020-11-27T22:58:06Z")
Welcome on the forum, @dxiri ! Gas token will soon stop working from what I’ve heard. It’s basically a cheap hack and it’s detrimental to the network. It has a bad reputation. The next iteration of Uniswap (v3) could introduce L2 functionality. ---
**Author:** ![dxiri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/dxiri/32/1445_2.png) [@dxiri](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/dxiri)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/14 "2020-11-27T23:11:16Z")
thanks for the warm welcome 😃 If there is work ongoing already to introduce L2 functionality then that by itself will greatly reduce fees when implemented since volume will shift to v3 from v2, unclogging the network. Didn’t know gastoken was frowned upon, 1inch uses it’s own gastoken (chi) as well, by what you are saying it sounds like they would need to move off of it. ---
**Author:** ![gman211](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/gman211/32/1894_2.png) [@gman211](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/gman211)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/15 "2020-12-12T12:21:23Z")
Definitely need to do something about the gas fees!! I’ve been saying that for awhile. That is what’s hurting Uniswap and ultimately driving down demand leaving to much supply. ---
**Author:** ![onswitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ebca7d/32.png) [@onswitch](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/onswitch)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/16 "2021-01-21T13:46:19Z")
currently gas. it does not allow small entrepreneurs to use uniswap and the small ones are many. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/jabez/32/2416_2.png) [@Jabez](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/17 "2021-02-03T06:21:31Z")
Hey I agree with the idea of developing a layer two solution, where u bring the tokens into another platforms n reduce the gas fee by performing the transaction in that layer under the rule of ur own smart contract ---
**Author:** ![Aeris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/gov.uniswap.org/aeris/32/3170_2.png) [@Aeris](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/Aeris)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/18 "2021-02-03T14:40:17Z")
The exorbitant gas fee is so off putting that I use Uniswap as a means of last resort or entry into a project I’ve researched. Gas fees has eaten away at much of my early profits simply because I didn’t understand gas fees till I checked my bill later. “_Gasp_\*\* I spent how much to swap that?!” ---
**Author:** ![getmunyhuny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b19c9b/32.png) [@getmunyhuny](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/getmunyhuny)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/19 "2021-02-03T18:58:26Z")
this is why i signed up here. gas fees are getting very high. in 2 days its gone from seeing lows of 50 4x that ---
**Author:** ![Forgecore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Forgecore](https://gov.uniswap.org/u/Forgecore)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793/20 "2021-02-05T01:25:47Z")
Not only that. Lost gas for uncompleted swaps is very common. Seems like I read a way to get it back. But who wants to spend all that time for $12. Needs to be more straight forward for adoption reasons. Sucks if you automatically run off a certain % of new users [Next page](https://gov.uniswap.org/t/the-quest-for-cheaper-gas/8793.md?page=2)